Update on 1303 New Orleans and 2746 N. Florida Avenue
9/7/06 9:25 P.M. Added Comments:
I have been remiss. The posts on this blog on this issue (and the results) are the results of much work by several people that have included online and onsite research, attendance at hearings and behind the scenes conversations with city officials. This blog, like ABC Action News has served as a public focus for all of this.
As a direct result of the posts on this blog, changes have occurred in how 1303 New Orleans and 2746 N. Florida Avenue are being handled. (Great thanks to ABC Action News and Chris Martinez for their news coverage)
On Saturday I was called by Bill Doherty, Deputy Director of Code Enforcement. At the request of Randy Baron, he had read the posts on the blog. I discussed the situation in detail with him.
Since then the following has occurred:
". . . .we (Tampa Code Enforcement) filed an official complaint with DBPR reference 1303 new Orleans and 2746 Florida----will let you know of results.-----Had initial meeting today with TPD Officer Berry and her partner ( who are assigned to monitor the sexual predators living in the area ), and their supervisor along with Department of Corrections and Occupational Licensing. They are pleased to join the Task Force and expressed interest in attending the work shop as well. A great deal of information was shared---our task force leader, Supervisor Susan Wenrick, was in attendance as well and a plan of action has been formulated to deal with the issues at hand.----- I am meeting with Fire Marshal Todd Spear this week to discuss how they can team with us and assist in bringing more pressure to bear on out of compliance offenders"
As noted above, a new Code supervisor has been assigned to this case, Susan Wenrick.
Code Enforcement is creating a collaborative task force to address issues.
"we would like to form a Seminole Heights Task Force to specifically deal with the Quality of Life issues affecting the Neighborhood---dealing with overcrowding conditions, zoning issues, high priority code issues identified by the neighborhood. We are currently involved in 2 on-going major task force projects--in YBOR City and East Tampa. They have been very successful and combine Code Enforcement working in conjunction with Tampa Police, Fire Marshal's Office, Occupational Licensing,Transportation and Solid Waste all concentrating on similar goals and objectives. In addition we would like the task force to concentrate on the business corridors along Florida and Nebraska between Waters on the north and Martin Luther king to the south. We are going to assign Supervisor Susan Wenrick to head up the task force if that is agreeable to everyone.. She will have 3 inspectors assigned to her on the task force. We will continue to have the already assigned inspectors continue their current program of proactive and systematic. The task force will operate independently and have wide latitude to fulfill their mission. Curtis is meeting with Probation and Parole, Tampa Police, and Occupational Licensing this week to recruit their offices to participate in the task force. We will also be asking Shannon Edge to assist us in establishing initial meetings in bringing the 3 neighborhood groups together and assisting us in disseminating the progress of our combined efforts to the members of the community."
This task force is modeled on the Prostitution Task Force that Seminole Heights created to deal with prostitution. That task force worked very well. I have good hopes for this new Code Task Force.
Furthermore, the neighborhood associations are working on finalizing the Code Enforcement education workshop dates and location.
64 comments:
You mentioned the Prostitution Task Force. Is that still active or are there any active efforts on this issue? In the year I've lived here I've noticed a bit of an upswing to the number of "ladies" I've seen during daylight hours, both morning and evening. I'm not referring to the transgenders, those I've seen regularly on my commute north from downtown. These are much farther north in areas where the first nine months I've lived here I never saw any.
I think the "hooker patrol" for OSH & SESH is not out on a scheduled basis within the last year as the level of activity both from the hookers and the patrol participants has dropped dramatically from past years.
It is probably something we need to refocus on as I am hearing of a higher level of sightings north of Hills.
IFly are you north of Hills in OSH?
RE: code response - this is only a good thing - I am involved with a project around the Belmont Hts area (Lake/22nd) and Ed Johnson - CDC director had told us about the similar effort by the city, as proposed by Bill Doherty, that have dramatically addressed these issues within the East Tampa CDC area.
I have been in Hampton Terrace a little over a year and hadn't seen any prostitutes until this past month. Now I've seen the same "lady" (not sure, tall, very thin and African-American) twice, once just hanging out at the corner of Nebraska and Powhatan and this week, walking down Henry with a white guy. Not positive but I am out in the neighborhood a lot and have never seen either of them and they didn't look like they were out for a nice walk after dinner. Didn't know what to do since I didn't actually have anything to report to the cops.
I have mixed feelings about the task force. First, yes, it would be great to have Codre, the police, zoning, etc., etc., out in force in SH to clean it up. We have businesses and homes that regularly violate the rules and don't seem to ever be punished. On the other hand, THAN haed code set up a Citizens Advisory Council to Code to handle just these problems. It was supposed to bring neighborhood issues to the Code Enforcement department so that code could deal with them. Why, if CAC works, isn't that happening?
To my knowledge the CAC was set up by CODE and run by them. THAN mearly found the participants. CAC does not work. If it did we would not see the code courts full of people who just don't know what to do and people who are cited who freak out.
I have had this same smoke blown up my a## before. Unfortunately, we have been told so much crap over and over, that I am not likely to believe anything that comes out of this office. If they would just do their jobs, they wouldn't have to set up special "task forces" to deal with these issues.
Yes, I am in the vicinity of Hanna and Florida. Most of the suspicious-looking ladies I've seen this summer have been on Florida or Nebraska north of Sligh. Though two were sighted together near the Front Porch back in June.
I am another disgruntled citizen.
Didn't Bill Dougherty pass this case once before and let Helen get off easy?
Now that we complain he wants to make a task force???
Did anything happen to these bosses in code for what they did to us for years?
Does anyone even care besides Santiago and Shannon Edge?
I may listen to Shannon but I have no respect for these leaders.
Not after watching the television footage and denying there is a problem.
I drove by the other day to ease my mind and I saw WELL OVER 15 people standing outside this house.
WELL OVER 15!!!!!
The city STILL HASN"T done ANYTHING!!!!!
I am furious.
I am so mad that I am turning beet red right now.
What in the he!! is going on over there??
It also makes me wonder if Bill Dougherty is the one that made those posts about Santiago since he was advised of this site instead of Curtis Lane.
I think code gives a lot of excuses but doesn't deliver a lot of results.
I think the main reason starts with the top.
If you have bad management, employees underneath don't care and so on.
Its a cycle of not caring.
From what I read, it appears that there is a problem and it also doesn't appear that it is fixable unless there are major changes.
I am not a fan of Curtis Lane as I think he is a politician and not a leader.
Bill was there in the Dick Greco days and we all know what went on then.
I couldn't imagine having to work there.
If they cared so much, they wouldn't have let this slip by.
A fumble recovery is a lot easier if you don't fumble at all.
Who is Susan Wenrick and what is her education and knowledge of zoning laws?
I have never even heard of this person before.
Where did she come from?
If I knew how qualified this person was I might support this program.
I am not looking for another Dick Greco protege'.
Are you telling me the area at Lake and 22nd has improved?
The police have removed the drug dealers and thats it.
What buildings, other than those that have been government funded have improved due to code.
Its the same old POO POO
I dont know but Larry Mickinnon from TPD is one fine looking man.
I saw him on TV tonight and I want to know how to get him as a guest speaker.
If the men can look at Kristi the women need their designated eye candy too.
It would make the meetings more interesting anyways.
You all are a bunch of spoiled,racist,inmature human beings. If you took half the time educaing ourelves about what is going on around you that you do whinning and crying on here then maybe you would get out and help your neighbors. It's just easier to sit back and complain. You know nothing about laws, procedures, etc. As for Mrs. Wenrick maybe you should call and fnd outher qualifictions. Another cae of someone crying before finding out what's ging on. As for your "sexual predator house....just becuse the FDLE website says they live there dosen't mean a thing. And if I were you morons I'd be more worried about the molester that lives down the street that you don't know about or where those others listed on he website are than the ones that you know where they live.Yesthere are some there you don't know about. Where did Vonell Cook go? HMMMMMMM! Like I said why don'tyou get out and do something.Depend on he government to do everything for you and you will have nothing. The taskforcewill accomplish nothing more than what they want you to see. The proavtive approach works when given the adequate manpower. 35 inspectorsare not neay enough. Maybe you shud stat suporting your code deparmnt like old seminole heights and tell the mayor taking officers away fromthee normal proactive duties isn't the answer but more officers is. Like I said...you are a bunch of spoiled, racist, inmature, uncing bunch of human beings.
Hey ANON 8:57. By reading your posting doesn't seem like you're the smart one in the bunch. Either you are really dumb and don't know how to spell correctly OR you are so crazed that you are shaking while trying to type. CALM DOWN, MY CHILD!!
Another one of Bill Dougherty's posting I assume.
The FDLE web site is not absolutely up to date every minute. However, it has tracked the movement of the residents from the house at 1303.
As far as code. SESH tried working WITH code for years. It is the lack of accomplishment that has started all this. I hope this task force is successful, but I am skeptical. Sad, if code just did their job a task force would be unnecessary.
The FDLE list is updated every 24 hours and is highly regarded as accurate according to a HCSO deputy.
If you dont like that list TPD has one too.
Code is the only agency that denied there was a significant problem there.
Everyone else knew.
TAKE THE CREDIT.
CHANGES WERE MADE BECAUSE OF YOU AND THE WAY THE SITUATION WAS HANDLED!!!!
The effort to make changes are being made because of Scott AND OTHERS who gave a ton of time and relentless interest and activism. Being a clearing house for all the facts is just one of the way Scott has helped to make this happen, but everyone did their part. Some researched, some contacted the various city departments, some went to court, some contacted the media and spend time giving them facts. It is an ongoing group effort.
What a load of BS you people have yourselves believing. What world do you live in? Oh yeah the fantasy world of Southeast Seminole Heights. The task force is a waste of time, money and resources. If your current inspector had been doing her job as they are where we are from then you wouldn't be having a whinning and crying session and we wouldn't belosing an inspector in our area to placate you bunch of spoiled babies.
I do believe our inspector wrote helen up and it was the supervisors we had problems with.
One member had to visit the code office while others had to visit the media.
Please Dougheryt enough is enough.
I like being spoiled.
Whats the matter...are we making you finally get off your bum??
Boo Hoo..
Cry me a river....
CRY ME A RIVER..............
I like our inspector.
She aint perfect but I give her a 20 on a scale of 1-2.
BC I like to have my footsies rubbed...just joshing.
anon 11:17
Most of the bull comes from you. I love how adamant people are who have little knowledge but big mouths. Our code officer is relatively new. The old one sucked! Our current one does her job. She did not close the cases in the past on the property at 1303. She had nothing to do with it. But those above her did.
I don't even care that the guy is missing..as long as I get to see Larry Mckinnion on TV again
Who can I contact to become part of the prostution patrol? I live in zipcode 33604 and from August 28, 2006 to September 3, 2006 there were 8 arrest for prostitution. That's very alarming to me. Granted some were way north of me but most were a few blocks east of me. But either way prostitution is on the rise and it's very blatant. I went to breakfast at Three Coins last Sunday morning at 7 am there was a nasty chick and her pimp right there on the adjacent corner. Prostitutes are unacceptable any suggestions on how I can help minimize the problem would be greatly appreciated.
anon 9:55. You can contact Sherry Simons from SESH and she will put you to work!! Go to www.seshca.com and click on the "contact us" button. Someone will get back to you with information asap. Thank you very much for offering to HELP with the problem instead of just complaining about it!!
Anon 9:55 - If you are in Old Seminole Heights you can also contact Susan Long (contact info at www.oldseminoleheights.com) and she will get you the appropriate information. OSH does hooker patrol on Nebraska north of Hillsborough and also on Florida. I second PutaPatrol's thanks in volunteering to help.
Anon 9:55
contact your neighborhood watch co-ordinator at grid59nw@tampabay.rr.com and they will forward your contact info to the right people.
Thanks for wanting to be a part of the team.
!
Dear Anon 9:55
I would appreciate it if you didnt spread my buisness on the internet. I am not "nasty" I just had a cold that day. He is also not my "pimp" but my "career advisor".
Love
Pretty Woman
Hey morons, I just got back from code enforcement. If your inspector is so wonderful why did they just complete a sweep in the area east of Nebraska and find almost 120 properties in violation. Sounds like she needs to stop socializing and start working.And before you ge to caught up in how wonderful she is maybe you should do a litle background. I'm just glad she dosen't work in my neighborhood.
Anon 12:23
When it comes to morons none could be more moronic than you! I just love peoples who know nothing and speak loudly.
It is not a simple matter. The "sweep" is a direct result of SESH being so vocal. It is a bit of help and a lot of retribution.
Our new code officer has been working on egregious properties, not the overgrown lawns and parking on the right of ways! Rather the cases that have been dragging on for years or new ones which are serious. This is the second "sweep" from code since I lived in the area. The first one was ruthless and pointless and afterward nothing about the egregious offenders had changed, life went on and they continued to offend! Meanwhile a lot of havoc was caused to the neighbors who had the minor offences. I have no idea how this sweep is going, but I suspect it is no different. It is built to make us look bad, not to really address the needs of the community. What's new?
You make yourselves look bad. Cry me a river. And you'd be surprised what I know and who I know. You think Code was ruthless before. I sure hope all of your glass houses are in order (and your alleys clean) from what I hear. As for your new inspector she wouldn't know egregious if it bit her in the a$$. But she will know the unemployment line if she continiues to attend your porch parties and fraternize with you.Can we say ETHICS code. I know the city has one. It's all the Mayor can talk about sometimes. Like I said I'm glad our inspector has a brain in his head. He dosen't cite for the wrong violations and get them closed out and have to start over. HMMMMMM. I wonder who did that? Oh yeah your girl from what I was told and shown. Gotta love the open records law. And as for this big mouth. I do speak loudly and our neighborhood gets things done as a group without having to go crying to or about cod, police or any other govenrment agency. We help each other out. We don't segregate ourselves from the neighbors or businesses we don't care for. Keep depending on the government for everything and you will have nothing. And right now you people are losing all self respect and are becoming the laughing stock of all the other associations.
Anon 1:49 - Which association are you affiliated with? Maybe the poobahs from our associations can use it as an example.
PRETTY WOMAN!!! I don't care if it's raining, get back on the street and sell some. Best have my money by tonight.
One porch party and one other group social event, does not mean fraternize. And I wish to point out that various members of TPD including Assistant Chief Castor have attended far more porch parties and social gatherings. PP are open to anyone.
Just like the PP the neighbors of SESH get things done together. We rather thought though that the handling of a house full of illegal residents would be better left to code and zoning. The neighbors would probably hog tie em and take em out of town. So since this is not the ole west where we handle our own things our own way, the neighborhood involved the city departments. Sorry if you find fault with this but I think vigilantism is not the best answer. And if you are saying work with em, please tell me how you work with what is essentially a slum lord with no ethics and little or no concern for the neighborhood? Suggestions welcome.
Ethics code...
Quite the strong comments coming from a city employee....
For some factual info...the girl did NOT close 1303 New Orleans out.
Check the public records.
Association of Smug Sycophants.
A.S.S
Just do whatever it is you do all day long and stay away from SESH ok.
Trash cans do not count as real inspections.
Please dont talk about ethics and code anymore.
Your one to talk DS
Thanks resident blogger-
I do work hard for ya'll.
I guess the only thing anyone could dig up in my past was when I attended a porch party.
If porch parties are a crime, I don't want to be right!!
Feel free to call me if you have any questions regarding the codes or if you receive a violation and you don't understand what it means.
anon 1:49
you're kidding me right? we've lost the respect of other associations? give me a friggin break! is that why we are constanlty approached with questions and have various other groups attend our functions? where do YOU live? pony up your info. you obviously don't know crap about us or kristin so quit talking your sh*t. she has more integrity in her left pinky than most of the other 'tards in Code combined! she is committed to her job and the residents of Tampa. have you ever even TALKED to her? just b/c she's been to a porch party doesn't mean she's "corrupt". are you kidding me? what exactly do you think happens? conspiracy to close out cases occurs over the guacamole? if curtis lane came to ANY event other than one where he thought he could manipulate the situation his stock would increase ten fold.
as for segregating ourselves from businesses, i can only assume you mean ybor pizza? ok, you're right. we decided as a whole to distance ourselves from a business owner who's total lack of concern for general cleanliness we found unacceptable. we decided as a group that his storage of inop vehicles, rat attracting debris and general apathy was something we couldn't endorse. gee, now i see your point. we should be aligning ourselves with THOSE kinds of businesses, shouldn't we?
we don't "depend" on the government for anything, expect to DO THEIR DAMNED JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which they arent very good at obviously or 1303 would have been in foreclosure by now.
I thought Helen Pridgen was Helen Keller for a minute because one would have to be deaf and blind not to see that there are more than 2 people in 1303 New Orleans.
They will be back and I am going to have to whip someones a$$.
Why dont you leave your name twiddlywinks who posted some sh!t about my girl.
You probably look more like John Carr eating your prawns and cant find anyone above age 12 to screw so you sit on here and look for tweens.
You probably dont know anyone and like to make yourself feel big by saying so.
Does it make you feel important to those tweens?
Im watching you.
Whats wrong with being friendly?
Are you threatening me there pa with your notices?
Make sure to list the day you will be coming back to my place.
I have been in two wars and I'm not scared of you either.
I will have to remember to not take my meds the day you come.
Ladies are alwayys welcome so dont be scared.
As long as you are a republican you can have my vote.
You have to be a republican or a cutie pie...I kind of like Ms. Pam because she is putting the bad guys in jail.
But I am not one to take any bullsh1t from a sniveling little brat in code.
I will take that notice and shove it so far up your a%^ that you will never come back this way again son.
You need to watch your tone around the ladies.
Especially pretty ones.
This isnt new york city??
*Go Dixie*
Go Dixie???? You have got to be kidding me. I haven't laughed so hard in years. Something is definitely wrong with a person that still claims such "pride" in pure ignorance. We all know here that you are nothing but a lowly, lonely coward and are too much of a pu@%y to do anything at all to anyone. Wars?? This is exactly why we shouldn't be fighting unnecessary wars. Look at the damage it does to people. And the part about ladies welcome? I can bet with my life that no real "lady" would be willing to be your company without some serious financial compensation. You are what's wrong with today's Republican party. Now it's out there for EVERYONE to see!!
Try sending me a pu$$y a$$ violation and you will be leaving with your pants down.
I *Guaruntee* it partner.
You know......it probably aint too hard to find out where code officers live either so maybe instead of spewing threats you should be doing some babysitting or playing with dolls.
Guys.....I believe we have a real sicko on our hands.
Yes its called the city of Tampa Code Enforcement Department
At lest the girl had balls enough to pst her name here.
Inspector disgruntled is probably playing with his dolls.
Wahhhhhhh
The sex offenders will be on the streets and slithering around your back windows after you kick them out of the few places that will take them. Great work!! No need to come up with solutions. Get everyone together, get the torches, and set the place ablaze!
Just like ole time Salem--paranoia and anger without intellect . . . that's the way to be SESH! Cheers for the team.
And if code management doesnt want to do anything about it...we will elect someone who will.
Because I will personally see to it that every registered voter in SESH has an absentee ballot or a ride to the polls in the next mayoral election.
The sex offenders cant vote can they.
They dont belong here, there are too many of them, and I am tired of this.
There are others in this neighborhood that we haven't protested because they are not all packed in like sardines in a residential HOUSE you piece of sh1t.
That is intellect.
YOU want to let them break the laws.
Are there sex offenders in code management???
Seriously?
I am confused.
Is that the way the mayor wants code to work?
I am tired of being ignored.
You can here me now or by god you can here me on election day.
I am making a plea to the mayor to make this right and we will work with you on election day or ignore this and we will have to explore other opportunites.
God I hope someone from the city reads the blog.
MY ONLY COMMENT IS *HAS THE MAYOR BEEN NOTIFIED OF THIS....OR AT LEAST SANTIGO???*
I KNOW WE CANT CALL THE MAYOR BUT SANTIGO HAS AN OPEN DOOR RIGHT??
I KIND OF LIKE THE GUY AND THINK WE SHOULD ASK FOR ASSISTANCE DUE TO THE TREATMENT WE ARE GETTING.
ANYONE WHO LIKES DOGS IS A FRIEND OF MINE****
DOGS NEED A PLACE TO RUN AROUND TOO!!!!
Answer to your comment Anon 8:36, EVERYBODY KNOWS. And if you are in doubt attend the Town Hall meeting on Tuesday and tell her yourself!
I WILL IF I AM ABLE TO SPEAK.
IT IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
I REALLY DONT WANT TO HEAR FROM CURTIS AS I BELIEVE HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A MAJORITY OF THIS SINCE IT IS HIS "SHIP".
THE TITANIC IS SINKING AND I AM AFRAID OF RETRIBUTION NOW DUE TO THE ABOVE MENTIONED POSTS.
I AM TORN BC I REALLY LIKE KRISTI BUT I AM HIGHLY UPSET TONIGHT AFTER READING THIS GARBAGE.
IF I EVER FIND OUT WHO IS TALKING TRASH ABOUT HER I WILL MAKE IT MY PERSONAL MISSION TO SEE THAT THEY NEVER WORK FOR THE CITY AGAIN.
ANYTIME I NEED SOMETHING DONE, SHE IS ON IT ASAP.
SHE HAS DONE THINGS HERE THAT I DIDNT THINK WERE POSSIBLE.
OSBORNE AND NEBRASKA- CONDEMENED- NEED I SAY MORE??
SCIENTOLOGISTS- MOVED ON- NEED I SAY MORE??
SEX OFFENDERS- CHECK- NEED I SAY MORE??
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS I REALLY DONT CARE WHAT SHE DOES TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
AS LONG AS SHE KEEPS HELPING US.
IF I GET A LETTER FROM CODE AFTER THIS MEETING AND I SPEAK OUT, LORD HELP THE CODE DEPARTMENT.
For the past three years, it has been the practice of the code department and the Mayors office to let it go to the extreme, then suddenly run to the rescue and create a task force this has been a move to distract the noise from the real issue. As soon as that is accomplished, they go back to status quo. The only way Seminole Heights and Tampa will be better is change. Mayor Iorio has done very little for the majority of Tampa. Her people from Santiago down do nothing but offer lip service. If they actually cared about the crap they fed us, they would have fired Bill D, Curtis Lane and Harold Scott. If you remember few years ago when neighbors formed the City Wide Code Efforts, Curtis Created the City Wide Task Force, when the city wide people lost interests, the focus changed. I can promise you this... I will do all in my power, recruit as many people, raise as much money as possible to ensure that Mayor Iorio is ousted on her ass in the next election!!!!
I WILL RAISE SO MUCH MONEY FOR WHATEVER CANDIDATE FIXES CODE THAT BANK OF AMERICA WILL HIRE ME A DRIVER.
ALL YOU GRUMBLERS AND MUMBLERS PLEASE GO TO THE TOWN HALL MEETING TUESDAY NIGHT AND PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS. IF ALOT OF PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP AND QUESTION THE MAYOR ABOUT ALL THIS, I WILL NEVER LISTEN TO ANYTHING YOU SAY HERE AGAIN!!!!!
Please stop using Caps Lock.
There has to be some concerned citizens left that aren't trying to make a political name for themselves.
Actually, they might win a seat in SESH if they do speak up.
With all the pissed people there are out here about this house and the LACK of assistance the city gave us.
The biggest mouth wins the votes.
Hear Ye.
I hope you all who are speaking up here will be attending the Town Hall Meeting tomorrow night. I am, however, concerned that we not appear to be a lynch mob! Everyone will not be heard and if we all stand up and whine and complain we will drone out our own points, There are a couple of questions which need to be asked and we should listen to the answers. I am looking for two people who would be willing to ask specific questions and am asking everyone else to go as support. We need the numbers of people in attendance to show we really care. Speaking up here makes you feel good, but show up at the town hall meeting shows you really care.
If you are interested in speaking, about code, at the meeting please email info@SESHCA.com and let me know who you are.
Thanks,
Wow pretty hostile sounding
some of those post...
so Pam Orios is going to be here tomarrow night
I wonder to myself,what good is it really? to ask her anything or any other dipsh*t there ?
Have the neighborhoods here gotten what they desired by doing all this?
seems to me its no....cause all of this stuff is still currently going on
you see
around ya all here and in each area of tampa
I see no reason for people to place such rude comments to one another either.....come on this is not highschool and so unkind of those who cannot get what a good neighborhood is about
some of us do recall those days
for me im now a renter back here
I did home own on Idlewild east
years back.....and all my neighbors were kind people all of them knew of all of us and we helped them .....wasnt a big deal nor is it expected it is just it
its unexpected and good to be kinder than to argue over crap and all this is is crap
knock it off if some dont care for the content in this blog
good gravy! just move on.....dont insult and argue like children......sheesh.....settle to agree you do not agree
I happen to like an area that cares still for the old neigborhood charms
too bad some others cannot
for what ever reason
perhaps not having this life to reflect on I wonder often
or just plain ordinary envy...I gather to self that this is more likely the attitude problemo.....
seminole heights is a truely wonderful area of this city
please dont trash this place and make it to be other than where concerned people care about their families and one another
Life is way to short folks
You are directing your comments to the wrong people.
This wasn't anyone from SESh who made these nasty comments.
I did not "direct'my comment at anyone in OSH.so um......read closer
I made those comments about folks getting on here and talking to the OSH peoples ...how we all think we are this and that blah blah blah
we are a neighborhood who likes what we have is all i was stating
what you got out of that post .well its your perception
I happen to get tired of the verbal barbs directed at one another here...
did you not learn to read?
so NEENER to you.........and shaddap..
hey seminoleheightspussy...er i mean kitty. you're doing exactly what youre complaining about. dont like it? dont do it.
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