Monday, December 11, 2006

Gentlemen's Club

An email:

I emailed the city in regards to a gentleman's club opening up in the area and their response is below in green. From this email, it clearly states that Seminole Heights is safe from a strip club opening. I still think we need to be active but it appears the city codes are on our side for now.

Good Morning,

I am a resident of Seminole Heights and it's rumored that a building
currently under construction is going to be zoned for a gentleman's
club. The address of the parcel in question is 4034 N Nebraska Ave.

According to the property appraiser page, it's currently zone 211 MIXED
USE RETAIL from what I have researched it doesn't look like that zoning
allows adult use.

Where can I research if a property owner has applied
for a variance or zoning change? Who can I contact to find out what
process an adult business owner has to go through to get approved by the
city to open? Do you know what business license class an adult business
owner falls under and whether there is a state license which needs to be
applied for?

......Adult Uses are processed through the Special Use process - and
they only come through me for review and approval. I have no requests on
file at this time for any propoerty within the City limits......

There is another parcel of land at 8101 N Nebraska which is a
gentleman's club and it's zoned 2503 SERV SHOP C is that the typical
zoning for strip clubs?

.....This location is under investigation - it is not a legal adult use
- and we are in the process of verifying the actual use inside. Please
keep in mind that we cannot regulate the content of signage - if a
business chooses to advertise as a "gentlemen's club" we cannot prohibit
that action - however, we can inspect the actual use of the property and
if they found out of compliacne we can begin the process that brings
them into compliance.....furthermomre, I want to be clear that 2503 SERV
SHOP is not a zoning classification - it is a use classification
assigned by the property appraiser in order to asses the proporty value
for taxing purposes....adult uses are only considered conforming, once
approved through a special use petition, in the CI (Commercial
Intensive), IG (Industrial General), and IH (Industrial Heavy)
classifications.....there are very limited sites within the City that
adult uses can be opened, and in Seminole Heights there are no viable
locations, due to the proximity of residential uses.....

....I hope this helps - and feel free to contact me again with any more
questions.....

Thank you for any assistance you can provide in how to research this
topic or whom to contact.

61 comments:

Anonymous said...

Keep in mind that "gentlman's club" could be legal as long as there's no nudity.

Anonymous said...

keep in mind it could be legal anyway!

CouldBeSherry said...

Due to some questions asked of various city departments last week this building has been posted with a stop work notice. There is great concern about the viability of the structure. So for a bit, until that is handled there won't be a gentlemen's club there.

Anonymous said...

I, personally, would love to have a gentlemen's club right here in the Heights.

Anonymous said...

Hopefully, it doesn't happen but to be honest a gentlemen's club sure beats another used car dealership,funeral home, car repair shop, or other dumpy looking business.

Beerwulf said...

7:26, not on your life. I've been to a few of those in my life, and they're fine in their place. But not where I have to drive past them with my daughters.

Anonymous said...

Well this is somewhat comforting. However, we are in Tampa. Remember, with this administration, they are the "We see nothin, We do nothin and we know nothin" administration. If we (translated Sherry) fight, we can keep this from happening.

Anonymous said...

I'm still fuming about the sulpher springs bar turning into Simones. It was skanky enough as a bar!

CouldBeSherry said...

I would love to point out here, that although I definitely champion speaking out about quality of life issues here in the hood. It is not my campaign alone, AND it is not done without the watchfull eye of all. The emails I get about what is going on in your area that is "not quite right" is the source for our ability to speak out. No one knows your street like you do. So I encourage all of you to pay attention to your surroundings. So much easier to fix something before it takes hold!

Anonymous said...

I would love to know what I personally could do to stop this from happening. That is right around the corner from my house. The tranny hookers at the corner are bad enough. I thought this neighborhood was cleaning up! Gentlemen's Clubs are fine, but lets keep them all in one place (like on Dale Mabry).

shawn-non-anonymous said...

There's nothing to stop from happening. Whoever started this rumor is just trying to stir everyone up.

*IF* someone wanted to place an adult business in any parcel on Nebraska in SH they'd have to apply for a special use permit. Period. At which point the associations will be notified and we can mobilize to do something.

Since that hasn't happened, this whole "gentleman's club" thing is unproductive speculation. Don't get worked up about it.

Anonymous said...

A gentlmen's club would be OK, I just wouldn't want one of those lingerie modeling places to go in there.

Resident Blogger said...

"Gentlemen's Club" Now there is a misnomer to be sure! Besides, we already have an outdoor Gentlemen’s Club. It is called Nebraska Avenue and is open from 11:00 pm to way past last call!

Anonymous said...

I have two words for you " juice bar"... no liquor license required and you still get the company of the ladies.

Broken Record said...

Anon with the Trannies


Said it before and I'll say it again......

Do you call the police every time you see a hooker on the corner?? Get an event number so that a car will be dispatched. Ho Ho Ho Patrol can't be out there all the time. If we all do our own mini ho ho ho patrol every time we enter and exit the 'hood then that will cut back on their business.

Anonymous said...

I heard it was going to be turned into a fitness club.

Anonymous said...

For all the people who wants to know what they are doing... They are going to break the whole building down and they are going to block all of Nebraska HAHAHA You guys would never know what they’re doing.... You people don’t know anything... Before you guys post a blog i suggest you get your facts right.... How do you guys know that they are not working without permits do you work for the owners.. I know for a fact that the owners have permits but never posted it... You guys should just stay out of others people business cus I work for the owner. Whoever has a problem come speak or meet the owner personally! Everyone’s just complaining when you all should be happy that something’s going to be there. They’re doing the work right nothing illegal. And wait and see what happens. Stop making complaints on the owners whoever is doing it. Stop talking trash... You people think that fining the owners is the right thing?? What difference would that make? Money speaks it all... It is not historical for all the people who think it is cus they went to the city of Tampa and found out... Whoever wrote their was part of the feeding frenzy the day it was listed for 150,000 you should mine your own business don’t be mad cus you got lost out of the feeding frenzy.. We did not give anyone a chance to purchase the building first come first serve.. So stop griping about anything about the building the owners and I don’t want to here anything you guys have to say about the building we know what we have to do and we are doing what we have to do… Now someone is doing something to make the building better your guys are just complaining and complaining go complain about something else..

Anonymous said...

f all you pplzzzzz

Anonymous said...

To all the people who are actually hoping for something good there and saying good comments thank you atleast we know we have some people on our side unlike the others who keep trying to bring us down.. Were trying to do something good for the community " Talk is cheap" don't always listen to what people say because honestly you guys are all wrong..Everyone totally have there stories twisted so untwist it and come talk to us and im sorry im a champion..

Anonymous said...

Im a BOSS im Taking over all of Nebraska

Anonymous said...

This building is now owned by
GOBERDHAN JENNIFER.

No permits per city of Tampa website so no permits.

Anonymous said...

This is a poor way to welcome a new business. The only one who knows what that building is going to be is the owner. This is getting completely out of hand. Enough has been said here and tempers are rising. Lets just relax for a while, we're supposed to be rational people not a lynch mob. Lets just wait and see what it becomes.

Anonymous said...

Send the hooker patrol in to get em. That'll show em. They'll be blinded by the spotlights and move to another neighborhood.

Resident Blogger said...

Wow anon 3:21 was that ever a bunch of crap! Per city, no permit. Facts were checked. And for the sake of the argument,if they had one and had not posted it, that is illegal also. BUT they didn't.

So from what I read you think any buidling or work is better than none? So if they put plexi in for windows and put bondo in the cracks, slapped some paint on it, we should all be glad. Not safe mind you, but glad?

ARE YOU NUTS!!!!???

Anonymous said...

we all know who typed that comment-
no need to even ask that question

Anonymous said...

CARTER, THERESA L LEWIS sold the property to JB DELATOP & ASSOCIATES INC (signed by ADELUFOSI, JOSEPH) for 93,000 who immediately (same day (10-27-06) sells it to GOBERDHAN, JENNIFER for $149,000. What's going on here?

http://www.jbdfunding.com/
13542 N FLORIDA AVE #213A

Did Goberdhan get scammed?

Anonymous said...

Goderhan was a defendant in a dismissed mortgage foreclosure in 6/2006 and an ongoing case of liens from her homeowners association.

ADELUFOSI has a lot of court cases against delinquent tenants. Slum lord maybe?

Anonymous said...

12/12/06 @ 10:53 shut the f up they not puting plexi u idiot nor bondo to fill in the cracks... I told you guys their bringing down the whole building... It takes time to get permits so we have it...Stop diging in peoples buisness...

Anonymous said...

The hooker patrol to get us were not even having a gentlemens club there all rumors go and send whoever yall want to send we are not afraid of any cops.. ANd were not going to move to another neighborhood we own Nebraska so f off

Anonymous said...

I have TPD programmed into my cell phone so I can call them every time the tranny hookers are on my corner. Also, these "people" who "own" Nebraska seem a little scary!

Anonymous said...

shut up

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Anonymous said...

Anon 9:13

Stop with the dirty language. I didn't finish reading your post because of your mouth. You don't know if kids are reading this.

Mal Carne said...

Just trying to understand the eloquence of the above posts has caused searing pain behind my eyes and possibly cost me several IQ points.

Anonymous said...

i heard they takimg down the buliding

Anonymous said...

What happen to the othe post that was deleted... What did it say???

Anonymous said...

Punkieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Redacted said...

Here is the reacted message:

Hi fast ****....go and Ĉheck your moms ***** is bald. Its not a gentlemans Ĉlub *****. I work in this ***** building. It is a funeral agenĈy and Ĉhurch. So when we die, we have a ****** place to rest our dead *** so we Ĉan get a little pray. The owner *** us up as assholes and just said its a gentleman's Ĉlub. But your going to end up like *** because its not like that. What a fool we all are. SHAME ON US ! ! !. Now we have to take our head and push it inside our mothers **** and keep our mouth shut and our ***** open for blueflies to sit on it. HI you ugly dumb ****...you guys should have been glad if it was a night Ĉlub so good lookin girls would've been around, instead of a funeral agenĈy for when we die....So our homeless **** to have a place to have a little Ĉongregation so our brothers and sisters Ĉould Ĉry a little and watch our dead ***. It is nice to know that we all are stupid fools to think a night Ĉlub-strip Ĉlub is going to open in an unzoned area. Laugh on us we stupid fools. What i think we should do now is to a **** or a worm and to get back in our mothers ***, or go in the groĈery and buy some pads and tape and panties and put it on our face......HOOOOO HOOOOO HOOOO !!!!! SANTA ĈLAUSE IS ĈOMING TO TOWN TO **** OUR MOTHERS AND GOVE US SOME TOYS TO PLAY WITH! ! !.....instead of minding other peoples business. I Ĉant imagine that we all from this herd were **** up and told its a strip Ĉlub and its not. What we need in this herd is some **** brain, we are **** ***** and ***** and **** to be betrayed. Now i feel i have my PMS. I live in this street and i know the owner very good, and i know it is no stip Ĉlub. BUT INSTEAD IT WILL BE A BUILDING WITH GREAT VALUE, HISTORIĈNESS, ADMIRATION, LANDMARK, LIGHTED, IT WILL BE LIKE SUNSHINE IN THE NIGHT.


FROM NO OTHER THAN

THE NEIGHBOR OF THE BUILDING

Anonymous said...

wow, there are real idiots among us.

Anonymous said...

I just read your entire post. I can't believe you are associated with a Church and use that kind of language. I question your spirituality. If it is a Christian Church, I question your Christianity. I don't know what kind of Church it is but I won't be going there.

Anonymous said...

If you already have the new owner's name why don't you send her a letter asking her what she intends to do with the building, and maybe offer some community support for the new business, or some helpul advice or suggestions from the neighborhood .

Anonymous said...

i am going to throw u trash people out and take nabraska over i am a judge and to hear all this absurbity going on we are having a meeting about this in 4 days

Anonymous said...

I was considering moving to S.H., but after reading your blog, I have definitely changed my mind. I am sure all neighborhoods have their nutcases, but you folks run them up the flagpole for all to see! My goodness, I used to think S.H. sounded like a nice place to call home, but I don't need to put up with these type of foul mouthed crazies for neighbors!

Anonymous said...

"i am going to throw u trash people out and take nabraska over i am a judge and to hear all this absurbity going on we are having a meeting about this in 4 days"

Um u is spelled YOU.

shawn-non-anonymous said...

LMAO @ Anon 1:07.

"absurbity"

Oh... I needed that chuckle.

Thanks. :-)

Anonymous said...

WOW. Someone is obviously very offended that this rumor got out. What's the big deal if it's just a rumor? I don't read this blog for that kind of anger and hatred.

fudgie the whale said...

uhm, so what kind of anger and hatred Do you read this blog for?

j/k

Anonymous said...

fudgie the whale:
The non-violent and less foul-mouthed kind.

Anonymous said...

Well anon 1:07, you sound a little quick to judge a whole neighborhood over someone you assume lives here. I'm not real sure how we run our nutcases "up the flagpole for all to see" or how you think we have any control over what people write on an anonymous blog. However, you appear to be a little too thin skinned to live here, if crazy people bother you. Westchase or some other Stepford wives habitat is probably more to your tastes. Good luck to you.

IFly said...

It seemed appropriate

Anonymous said...

Don't fret about 4034 Nebraska, it looks like they are doing the correct thing with quick gutting of the building. Please don't alert the city, some of Seminole Heights best remodeling jobs were done under the city's radar(i.e. Cappy's) No rezoning can be done with out proper notification to the residents. Here is the owners name, Jennifer Goberdham why don't you call her and ask her what she planning.

Anonymous said...

Its the crazy nut that always threatens us.
Unfortunately that nut works for the city.
A few pieces of trash away from a full garbage truck if you ask me.
Its called little brain syndrome.
When a person feels so insecure about themselves for whatever reason, fat, ugly, that their brain actually shrinks in size.
To about the size of a pea.
The only thing they can do is cuss and threaten people to give the shrinking brain some temporary relief by swelling the head back up a little.
Theres no cure.
Most people end up getting their a##es handed to them or being committed to a nursing home because they are unable to function in a civilized society.
The mortality rate is about 95%.
Im so sorry for you diagnosis.

Seminolesugar said...

To the wingnut. Who are YOu?

We like our neigbors to be friendly and reasonably sane.

Could you possibly leave?




ty

Anonymous said...

has anyne even talk to the owners??? They are actually permits on the windows if you guys go look and see... Why dont someone go and talk to the owners personally maybe there not bad people and maybe if we go and talk to them they would tell us what they are planning to do...

Anonymous said...

Nobody has talked to the owner, that's the problem. They would rather label them without knowing them or what their plans are for the building.

Anonymous said...

i like labels.
why do i have to go socialize with the owner?
not my job.
i dont care to have any new friends.
some people call me grumpyman.
the problem is, something should have been done years ago with the building and code looked the other way because dick greco and associates were robbing the city blind.
now code still hasnt done anything here.
nothings changed.
dick greco is still running code.

Anonymous said...

First of all, What I like about the blog is that it is an outlet for neighbors to discuss issues that pertain to Greater SH. Personally, I could care less what they are putting in the building. Bottom line is there were no permits, the work was illegal, they were harming an already fragile building. If there was nothing to hide, they would have gone thru the proper channels to pull proper permits. There is no excuse for them skirting the zoning department if the plans are legit!

Anonymous said...

if you demo and build to code then it may cost you more to go the extra mile - that's why they are not ligit.

Anonymous said...

They are ligit... and they do have permits on the window.. It was niglected for a long time you guys should be happy theres something going there. All you drug dealers and crackheads round there... You should be happy that there trying to make something good in the neighborhood..The work is not illegal how do you all know its illgal?? Look in the window the permits are yellow... its there i passed by there and saw it.. All you people acting like you never did something wrong and your always right and did everything by " THE BOOKS"..... They are ligit and They Have the MONEY MONEY IS NO PROBLEM FOR THEM.. They owners dont care what anyone has to say their just there to establish a business and clean up the community..

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:13
I hope for your sake they are opening a typing school and offering spelling/grammar classes. You could really use it. Your posts are gibberish. "All you drug dealers and crackheads round there..." WTF? Are you referring to those who comment on this post as drug dealers and crackheads, or is your train of thought so whacked-out that you can't even muster up a coherent sentence? Here's a tip: before you hit the "enter" button, read what you wrote aloud and see if it makes sense.

Anonymous said...

Reminds me of that commercial..
Heres your brain..
Heres your brain on drugs.. with the egg frying