"If you have noticed, the Central Tampa Section of the paper is no longer a supplement. Now we are forced to read about the "problems" of South Tampa. South Tampa has it's own weekly magazine in the Trib, as well as the supplement. We, have nothing. Of course, we can read letters to the editor from people who have never seen a transvestite prostitute, who condemn us for our aggressivestance against such activity in our neighborhood. What hypocrisy! What would the residents of south Tampa and Lutz do if their main thoroughfare was populated by transvestite prostitutes. Would they treat them as misunderstood "Human Beings"? Perhaps they could build some type of shelter for them.I have already sent an e mail to the Trib expressing my feelings. Essentially, I told them that I read their paper not for the national news , which is better reported in the St. Pete Times, but to be informed of local issues. I want new about Seminole Heights, Ybor, Tampa Heights, Downtown, Channelside etc. Is the paper just getting lazy? If the Trib cannot provide the new that I feel affects me , I may as well cancel my subscription. We could use our own newspaper. Temple Terrace has one..so does Brandon."
After all the comments flew back and forth on our email list we see that today the Weekly Planet did a story on the issue today by former Tribune reporter, Wayne Garcia.
"Almost inevitably when you see a media announcement about newspaper layoffs, or pulling coverage out of a community, or downsizing or disappearing news sections, it is accompanied by the rationale that it is "to better serve our readers."
Well, both daily newspapers in Tampa Bay are in the process of better serving their readers.
As a cost-cutting measure, The Tampa Tribune has ceased publishing weekly sections for Pinellas County and Central Tampa"
Why is this being done?
"Newsprint costs are expected to rise again next year, and advertising revenues are generally flat nationally, prompting some major newspapers - including the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Chicago Tribune - to eliminate positions and solicit early retirements.
But Weaver said the Trib's section closings will not require eliminating any staff. The change, she explained, will allow reporters in those bureaus to focus on writing daily, full-run stories of greater importance and enterprise."
Another comment on the email list was
"Most newspapers are run by corporations that want to squeeze a buck out of any place they can. About a decade ago the Trib had layoffs, not because they were losing money -- which I could understand -- but because the profit margin was "only" 12 percent and they wanted it to be something like 18 percent."
This is reflected in an article in the LA Times (that was sent out on our email list)
Another comment was
"The answer is probably some new paradigm: perhaps smaller, locally owned companies who can live with smaller, yet decent, operating margins. One thing we know: local news reports, in some form, will
always exist because of people's curiousity and need to connect with their communities."
Finally
"I can accept that the Trib may have financial problems and perhaps the deletion of the Central Tampa section was needed. However, in an effort to be inclusive they could call the supplement City Local or Neighborhood News. I do not feel the "love" when I see "South Tampa" edition. I know I am being picky. Things may change for our area and the Trib's interest in it when Ybor, Channelside, and Downtown become more populated."
This raises the question then, what should the Trib call its south Tampa section to be more inclusive? As noted above or, Southern Tampa Section, SOB (South of Busch), The Local Edition, or a name from the past, The Tampa Times. Any Ideas?
Here are some comparisons of the 2 Tampa Bay papers. (from the Media Info Center)
Top 50 Newspapers by Circulation, 2004
Rank Newspaper Daily circ % chg Sunday circ % chg
21 St. Petersburg Times (b) 311,680 -0.9 395,973 -0.4
43 Tampa Tribune (b) 214,269 1.9 293,090 2.7
I am REAL unhappy about the cutting of the section. I read it daily.
ReplyDeleteWhat crap.
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ReplyDeleteI'd be willing to bet money that the Trib makes more money from ads placed by people and business in South Tampa than from folks in Central Tampa -- and you don't ever want to bite the hand that feeds you. The know who's paying their bills, and their reporters salaries. It makes perfect "cents" to me.
ReplyDeleteWas watching Your House and Home tv show this morning on Fox and lo and behold a Trib commercial for the classified section comes on. It shows a bungalow with the caption "Seminole Heights 1:20 PM" shows young couples moving in and having kids and out growing the little house and moving on etc.. and ending with the Central Tampa classified section of their Homeseeker section. Ironic don't you think?
ReplyDeleteSo you bash the Trib for trying to stay afloat and then three days later you violate their copyright by printing an entire story verbatim about the neighborhood - something you did on Nov. 12, Oct. 25, Sept. 21, Sept. 19, Sept. 15, Sept. 8, Aug. 21, Aug. 19, Aug. 2, July 23, July 18, July 6, June 22, June 15 (two stories that day), June 13, June 9, June 8 (two stories that day), June 2, May 31 (two stories that day), May 23, May 14, May 13, April 29, April 26, April 2 and April 4. (Not to mention the dozens of links you've printed to Tribune stories relating to the neighborhood and the occasional stories from the Times you did the same with.)
ReplyDeleteDid you ask the Trib's permission all those times? Did you pay for the right to reprint? Did you ask TBO if you could cut and paste from their site?
I'm guessing the answer is no. If that's the case, the irony of you having the jumbo-elephant-coconut balls to criticize them for closing their section is thick as concrete.
Maybe if you had financially supported them when they were paying special attention to your section of town instead of ripping them off routinely, they'd still have a section devoted just to you.
I love this blog. I do. I love the idea of people covering their neighborhood. The original content here - the articles and the architectural critiques - is great.
But you're lucky they haven't sued the crap out of you. Seriously. No doubt you'd criticize them for that as well.
The least you should do - the absolute bare minimum - is send Kathy Steele a Christmas card. She's written a good third of your posts for you.
All other things aside, there is nothing wrong with posting a link to TBO or other news articles--not ethically or legally. Posting links correctly attributes ownership and authorship (you go to the site itself) and it also exposes each reader to any ads or other possible revenue-generation scheme the owner/author has set up.
ReplyDeleteShawn, while I agree that a link is ok, I believe what the previous poster was referring to (albeit a tad visciously) was reprinting the entire article within the blog. Even though a link is included, there is no incentive for the reader to click on the link. I think Scott needs to verify that he is not violating copyright when he does this.
ReplyDeleteWhat I was saying is that verbatim excerpts without permission or payment is a copyright violation.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that the blog relies so heavily on links from the Trib shows the paper's commitment to covering the neighborhood.
Well, I did say "all other things aside". :-) Quoting the full article probably is a violation of the copyright if done without permission. But Anonymous (shall we identify this particular Anonymous as "V. Anonymous?") also said:
ReplyDelete"(Not to mention the dozens of links you've printed to Tribune stories relating to the neighborhood and the occasional stories from the Times you did the same with.)"
This is all that I was responding to--V. Anonymous' listing of that item in among a litany of other wrongs.
Attributions in such a linear format and multiple Anonymooses isn't so easy. I'll try harder to be clear next time.